Phil Heath

selvfølgelig vil en kai der rammer dagen slå phil heath, han har markant mere masse, som trods alt er vurderingskriterium #1. Til gengæld kommer det næppe til at ske, og phil heath står altid godt, så mon ikke han tager 2'eren.

selvfølgelig vil en kai der rammer dagen slå phil heath, han har markant mere masse, som trods alt er vurderingskriterium #1. Til gengæld kommer det næppe til at ske, og phil heath står altid godt, så mon ikke han tager 2'eren.

Efter den forfærdelige placering han fik sidste år, spår jeg hans chancer for et comeback som værende 0.
Jeg er selv fan af Kai, men ser det nærmest umuligt at han skal kunne slå en mand som Phil.

selvfølgelig vil en kai der rammer dagen slå phil heath, han har markant mere masse, som trods alt er vurderingskriterium #1. Til gengæld kommer det næppe til at ske, og phil heath står altid godt, så mon ikke han tager 2'eren.

Efter den forfærdelige placering han fik sidste år, spår jeg hans chancer for et comeback som værende 0.
Jeg er selv fan af Kai, men ser det nærmest umuligt at han skal kunne slå en mand som Phil.

selvfølgelig vil en kai der rammer dagen slå phil heath, han har markant mere masse, som trods alt er vurderingskriterium #1. Til gengæld kommer det næppe til at ske, og phil heath står altid godt, så mon ikke han tager 2'eren.

Efter den forfærdelige placering han fik sidste år, spår jeg hans chancer for et comeback som værende 0.
Jeg er selv fan af Kai, men ser det nærmest umuligt at han skal kunne slå en mand som Phil.

selvfølgelig vil en kai der rammer dagen slå phil heath, han har markant mere masse, som trods alt er vurderingskriterium #1. Til gengæld kommer det næppe til at ske, og phil heath står altid godt, så mon ikke han tager 2'eren.

Efter den forfærdelige placering han fik sidste år, spår jeg hans chancer for et comeback som værende 0.
Jeg er selv fan af Kai, men ser det nærmest umuligt at han skal kunne slå en mand som Phil.

stopper du aldrig?

Efter den forfærdelige placering han fik sidste år, spår jeg hans chancer for et comeback som værende 0.
Jeg er selv fan af Kai, men ser det nærmest umuligt at han skal kunne slå en mand som Phil.

Kai både kan og vil slå Phil til dette års Olympia, hvis han rammer formen på dagen. Overlegen muskelmasse vinder shows.

Ville bare lige share de to billeder her:

Kai både kan og vil slå Phil til dette års Olympia, hvis han rammer formen på dagen. Overlegen muskelmasse vinder shows.

Jeg er uenig med dig Juice
Men lad os nu se hvad der sker til Mr. O.

Kai både kan og vil slå Phil til dette års Olympia, hvis han rammer formen på dagen. Overlegen muskelmasse vinder shows.

Jeg er uenig med dig Juice
Men lad os nu se hvad der sker til Mr. O.

Det handler ikke om at være uenig, sådan er det bare. Greene - Heath - begge står skarpt -> Greene vinder.

Aha?

Når jeg siger at hans holdning er den eneste gældende, så er jeg godt klar over at der er flere der deler hans holdning (Deriblandt dem du nævnte) Men det gør det desværre ikke mere rigtigt, og i har heller ikke fået sat to streger under facit selvom i prøver.

Ikke at jeg ikke er enig med dig i din vurdering af Kai vs. Heath, men jeg troede bare at du mente at det var individers egne holdninger, der var vigtige, frem for pøblens opfattelse af fakta? Er fakta at Kai Greene i form altid slår Heath fakta, fordi det er den gængse opfattelse af situationen?

Aha?

Når jeg siger at hans holdning er den eneste gældende, så er jeg godt klar over at der er flere der deler hans holdning (Deriblandt dem du nævnte) Men det gør det desværre ikke mere rigtigt, og i har heller ikke fået sat to streger under facit selvom i prøver.

Ikke at jeg ikke er enig med dig i din vurdering af Kai vs. Heath, men jeg troede bare at du mente at det var individers egne holdninger, der var vigtige, frem for pøblens opfattelse af fakta? Er fakta at Kai Greene i form altid slår Heath fakta, fordi det er den gængse opfattelse af situationen?

Der er forskel på fakta, 2+2 er også fire. Ja, Kai Greene står skarpere end Heath hvis de begge står godt, sådan er det bare - med mindre der sker meget drastiske ændringer som vi som tilskuere til mro ikke kan være herre over.

Jeg er uenig med dig Juice

Uenig med hvad?

Kai både kan og vil slå Phil til dette års Olympia, hvis han rammer formen på dagen. Overlegen muskelmasse vinder shows.

Jeg er uenig med dig Juice
Men lad os nu se hvad der sker til Mr. O.

Det handler ikke om at være uenig, sådan er det bare. Greene - Heath - begge står skarpt -> Greene vinder.

Jo det gør det så i en høj grad. Din opfattelse af Kai er ikke nødvendigvis korrekt. Derfor kan jeg godt være uenig i at Kai slår Phil.
Du har din mening og jeg har min, det tror jeg vidst godt vi kan konkludere.

+ Alt kan ske til Mr. O din mening kan ligeså vel være helt hen i vejret som min

Jeg er uenig med dig Juice

Uenig med hvad?

Jeg er uenig i at du siger, at Kai slår Phil, simpelthen fordi at jeg mener det modsatte

Jeg er uenig i at du siger, at Kai slår Phil, simpelthen fordi at jeg mener det modsatte

Ok. Er du også uenig i, at overlegen muskelmasse vinder shows?

Jeg er uenig i at du siger, at Kai slår Phil, simpelthen fordi at jeg mener det modsatte

Ok. Er du også uenig i, at overlegen muskelmasse vinder shows?

Hvorfor vinder Paco Bautista så ikke flere shows?

Jeg er uenig i at du siger, at Kai slår Phil, simpelthen fordi at jeg mener det modsatte

Ok. Er du også uenig i, at overlegen muskelmasse vinder shows?

Kombineret med en pæn symmetri nej

Kombineret med en pæn symmetri nej

Sjovt at nævne netop symmetrien, da det så absolut er en af Kais forcer. Jeg kan faktisk ikke komme på nogen a-game pro's, der har seriøse problemer med symmetrien (og som ikke har været skadet). Jays småskæve ben er det eneste eksempel jeg kan komme på, og det er helt åbenbart ikke et nævneværdigt problem for hans vinderchancer. Du mener måske proportioner? Eller måske linjer eller æstetik?

Men okay, du er ikke uenig i, at overlegen muskelmasse vinder shows til fordel for det mere æstetiske look, korrekt? Så må du da også medgive, at Phil ikke rigtig har ret gode udsigter til at slå Kai, hvis begge nailer formen på dagen? Kai vejer omkring 10 lbs mere og er faktisk 2½ cm lavere.

Masse vinder shows. Især masse på bagsiden. Og sådan bør det også være.

Btw, så skrev du i øvrigt:

Jeg er selv fan af Kai, men ser det nærmest umuligt at han skal kunne slå en mand som Phil.

Det er lidt arbitræt at debattere hvorvidt Kai eller Phil vinder med sikkerhed. Det kan vi selvfølgelig ikke sige noget om, for Kai kan sagtens flunke sin form på dagen, som han før har vist, at der er en betydelig risiko for, at han gør. Men faktum er nu engang (som jeg også har skrevet i en tilsvarende tråd), at Kai i form > Phil i form. Det er ikke noget jeg mener eller synes, men et faktum, hvilket Arnold Classic 2010 fint demonstrerede (jf. min video ovenfor).

Hvorfor vinder Paco Bautista så ikke flere shows?

Fordi han er grim vel sagtens. Jeg har aldrig hørt navnet før.

Phil Heaths freaky muscle bellies får ham til at se 50 lbs tungere ud end han egentlig er, så I får jer en overraskelse, hvis I tror Kai Greene dwarfer Phil Heath på scenen.

Phil har skam også en gut på vej.



Faktisk er den sammenlignet med Branch's i samme vinkel, til samme show og i samme posering næsten identisk med Kais, hvilket ikke er en overraskelse, da Philsuline Heath er en af de største blow-up dolls i gamet.

Kai har en større gut end Phil, men en massefaktor vigtigheden af hvilken overgår gut-problematikken.

Sandy du snakker meget om Phil Heath og hans forbrug af doping. Kan du fortælle mere om det eller linke til, hvor det bliver diskuteret?

tror jeg er enig med Birkkjaer - Phil bliver højere placeret end Kai til dette års olympia..

alligevel tror jeg ikke at nogen af dem vinder i år, for bodybuilding dommere er relativt konservative, ment på den måde, at der skal meget til før en favorit (som Jay), der har vundet flere gange ikke vinder. Jeg siger ikke at det ikke kan ske, jeg håber det faktisk lidt

En lille update fra Phil's facebook side, omkring hans kost i off-season - det er fra den 24. august.

Eat like a pro: step into the kitchen with Phil Heath as he unveils his offseason nutritional blueprint for crafting a Sandow-worthy physique

by Sommer Robertson

WHEN PHIL HEATH ENTERS THE KITCHEN DURING THE DARK, GLOOMY MORNING HOURS ON THIS LATE FEBRUARY DAY, it is business as usual. Nothing too fancy--no whole-wheat pancakes, smoothies or the like--just a carton of egg whites, a slab of steak and a tub of plain oats. His day begins with a hefty helping of each, and by the time he finishes, the next meal is already close on the horizon.

At last year's Olympia, even seasoned veterans like Chris Cormier jumped out of their seats the moment Heath walked onstage and unveiled his physique. Coming as close as anyone in recent years to unseating defending champ Jay Cutler, Heath is far and away the number one contender. But if he is to become the 13th man to hold the Sandow, he will have to overcome a host of hungry challengers and, of course, the man who edged him out last year.

To make sure that will happen this September, every collision with chow from this point forward has been meticulously mapped out and is met with precision. "When you eat (and train) at exactly the same times every day--whether you're offseason or precontest--it's easy to see how certain foods affect your physique," Heath explains. "Then you can make minor adjustments as the day goes on." Even the most minor tweaks mean muscle, and thanks to nutritionist/trainer Hany Rambod, Heath's physique is riddled with fresh, sinewy pounds.

PHIL HEATH 24/7

Currently weighing in at his leanest 270 pounds yet, Heath is looking larger than life. Here, Heath, Rambod and FLEX Senior Science Editor Jim Stoppani, PhD, dig into the offseason meal plan that is helping Heath tip the scales in his favor as he prepares for the 2011 Olympia.

7 AM

MEAL 1

8 egg whites

8 oz top sirloin steak

Lawry's Steak Rub seasoning

1 1/2 cups oatmeal

1 serving Vitakic

300 mg Co[Q.sub.10]

500 mg vitamin C

500 mg fish oil

TOTALS: 745 calories, 101g protein, 38 carbs, 21g fat

HEATH SAYS:

"Because it's first thing in the morning, which is a key time for gaining mass, I use two protein sources: eggs and steak. Eggs are absorbed fairly quickly and they're easy for the body to assimilate. Combining them with a slower-digesting protein source, such as sirloin, gives a timed-release effect."

STOPPANI SAYS:

"Phil gets a good serving of slow-digesting carbs with oatmeal. Research shows that when athletes eat slow carbs for breakfast they have more energy and burn more fat throughout the day and during workouts. This helps build mass, while keeping bodyfat low."

9 AM

MEAL 2

12 oz sirloin steak

Lawry's Steak Rub seasoning

1 1/2 cups white rice

1,500 mg glucosamine

TOTALS: 939 calories, 104 g protein, 80 g carbs, 22 g fat

RAMBOD SAYS:

"Beef can't be beat in terms of its strength-supporting creatine content. Creatine plays a vital role in the regeneration of ATP [adenosine triphosphate, i.e., energy], which fuels muscle contraction, so we load up on natural sources before training."

STOPPANI SAYS:

"Phil takes glucosamine to help with joint recovery. A lot of bodybuilders think this is an 'old man's' supplement. But the truth is, when you train hard and intensely, your body needs all the help it can get to keep your joints running smoothly."

11:30 AM

MEAL 3

12 oz ground turkey, 93% lean

1 tbsp grape seed oil

1 tsp chili powder

1 tsp onion powder

1 tsp basil

12 oz potato, baked

2 tbsp ketchup

TOTALS: 903 calories, 59 g protein, 82 g carbs, 38 g fat

RAMBOD SAYS:

"We change things up slightly, using protein sources like ground turkey instead of steak, and sometimes throw in one or two whole eggs. The additional calories and fat from the eggs can help trigger new growth. Plus, this type of occasional change keeps Phil sane while eating clean during the offseason."

STOPPANI SAYS:

"Getting your protein from a variety of sources--such as turkey, eggs, beef, chicken and dairy--is important because each type of protein has a different amino acid makeup, as well as different kinds of fats. These critical nutrients aid muscle growth."

12:40 PM

PREWORKOUT

1-2 scoops naNO Vapor Hardcore Pro Serie

1 serving naNOX9 Hardcore

1 scoop NQP-47

TOTALS: 275 calories, 33 g protein, 32 g carbs, 0 g fat

HEATH SAYS:

"I use all three, but I don't take the full dose of naNO Vapor. I'll use one or two scoops rather than the recommended three because I don't need the stimulants. I want to increase blood flow as much as possible before training, and the extra arginine really helps."

STOPPANI SAYS:

"Nitric oxide boosters are important before workouts, not just because the better pump makes you look bigger in the gym. That pump stretches the membranes of the muscles and that signals the muscles to grow bigger."

1 PM

WORKOUT

2 scoops IntraVol (intraworkout)

TOTALS: 160 calories, 0 g protein, 40 g carbs, 0 g fat

HEATH SAYS:

"Branched-chain amino acids help give me energy to push out those last few reps, and they keep my muscles full."

STOPPANI SAYS:

"BCAAs grow muscle. A study we conducted with the Weider Research Group and presented at the 2009 Annual Meeting of the International Society of Sports Nutrition found that trained guys taking BCAAs during workouts added almost 10 pounds of muscle in eight weeks."

2 PM

CARDIO

Step Mill, three or four days per week, 30 minutes per session, moderate intensity

RAMBOD SAYS:

"When I first met Phil, he was doing cardio too often in the offseason, mostly out of boredom. If you're doing too much offseason, you're not going to grow. Now we do cardio three or four times a week, immediately after weights, and because it's short, it doesn't hinder his gains in anyway."

STOPPANISAYS:

"The StepMill is a good choice for cardio due to its resistance component. Each step is essentially one rep of a one-leg squat. This means it can actually help to add muscle to the legs and glutes while burning off bodyfat."

2:30 PM

POST WORKOUT REPLENISH

1 serving Cell-Tech Hardcore Pro Series

1 serving Nitro Isolate 65 Pro Series

500 mg vitamin C

500 mg fish oil

TOTALS: 620 calories, 65 g protein, 86 g carbs, 1 g fat

HEATH SAYS:

"I split these up--drinking the protein shake first, and then the creatine 15-20 minutes later. Splitting it up doesn't disturb digestion or my appetite, so I'm able to eat my next whole meal when I'm supposed to. If I drink them together, the last thing I want to do is eat the next meal."

STOPPANI SAYS:

"The postworkout meal is the most critical meal of the day. This is the one time of day when the muscles are like sponges. Creatine, sugars and amino acids are literally sucked up by the muscles, so get these nutrients into your body within 30 minutes after workouts."

3:30 PM

MEAL 4

12 oz chicken, boneless, skinless

2 tbsp honey barbecue sauce

12 oz yam, baked

1 tsp cinnamon

1 serving Vitakic

TOTALS: 990 calories, 111 g protein, 102 g carbs, 12 g fat

RAMBOD SAYS:

"We don't limit seasonings and condiments, such as teriyaki and barbecue sauces, offseason--they help get the food down, which means more calories for growth."

STOPPANI SAYS:

"As important as the postworkout meal is, this one is also critical for maximizing muscle growth. It's important to eat this whole-food meal about an hour after your postworkout shake to keep muscle protein synthesis elevated longer. It means you are building up muscle for a longer time, which leads to more muscle growth."

6 PM

MEAL 5

10 0z teriyaki chicken

1 1/2 cups white rice

3 12-oz diet Cokes

1 Philadelphia roll

1 cream salmon roll (tempura fried)

2 large pieces tempura-fried shrimp

2 pieces hamachi yellowtail sushi

6 pieces hamachi yellowtail sushi

6 pieces sake salmon sushi

Mixed salad

Note: This is a restaurant meal.

TOTALS: 2,407 calories, 130 g protein, 288 g carbs, 78 g fat

RAMBOD SAYS:

"Don't try this at home! Cheat meals like this are only used when trying to push through plateaus. We'll do this every few days, usually before an intense training day, to help spur new muscle growth."

STOPPANI SAYS:

"Remember, this is the offseason; it's time for growth, not fat loss. Fats from fried tempura and cream cheese will actually keep testosterone levels elevated, and that leads to more muscle growth."

8 PM

MEAL 6

12 oz sirloin steak

1 tsp hit chili sauce

1 1/2 cups white rice

1,500 mg glucosamine

TOTALS: 942 calories, 104 g protein, 80 g carbs, 22 g fat

HEATH SAYS:

"This meal is one that I can easily find at most restaurants. I usually eat out more with my family in the offseason, and I'm not concerned if I end up taking in an extra ounce or two--I can get away with it right now."

STOPPANI SAYS:

"Most guys would be worried about the faster digestion of white rice, but it does have an anabolic effect due to the insulin boost. Insulin helps muscle grow. So in the offseason, Phil is more concerned with insulin's growing capabilities than its fat-storing capabilities."

10:30 PM

MEAL 7

12 oz tilapia

1 tbsp grape seed oil

Lawry's Lemon Pepper seasoning

Broccoll, Unlimited*

500 mg vitamin C

500 mg fish oil

* Nutrient values based on 2 cups

TOTALS: 617 calories, 95 g protein, 12 g carbs, 23 g fat

RAMBOD SAYS:

"This is a great alternative to beef--quick and easy to digest. It's a lighter protein source that won't cause bloat, so it's perfect before bedtime."

STOPPANI SAYS:

"No real need to calculate broccoli intake, especially in the 'growing' season. It provides so few carbs, with good fiber. Plus it contains a phytochemical that can help keep estrogen levels down, which can help to maximize testosterone levels."

1 AM

MEAL 8 (optional)

10 oz ground sirloin, 95% lean

Lawry's Steak Rub seasoning

Steamed mixed vegetables, unlimited*

* Nutrient values based on 2 cups

TOTALS: 796 calories, 108 g protein, 41 g carbs, 22 g fat

RAMBOD SAYS:

"If Phil is up late or he's still hungry, we add in another meal. The extra calories and protein aren't going to hurt--they're going to keep him anabolic. If he's out at night and misses a meal, we'll add more to this meal to make up for the lost calories."

STOPPANI SAYS:

"Even though Phil is in mass-gain mode, he still curbs carbs later at night. That's because insulin sensitivity is a bit lower at night, which means if you eat a high-carb meal at night, you may need more insulin released than earlier in the day. That could lead to more fat storage."

ONE-DAY TOTALS

CALORIES 9,394

PROTEIN * 910

CARBS * 881

FAT * 239

* in grams
STOPPANI SAYS:

"These are some big numbers on all accounts. But remember, Phil is 270 pounds of pure muscle. It takes a lot of protein and carbs (over 3 g per pound for each), as well as calories (35 per pound) not only to maintain this kind of freaky mass but also to continue making gains in lean muscle mass."

"I drink about a gallon of water a day in the offseason. When you're eating a lot of carbs, you don't need to pound gallons and gallons of water."



"My offseason diet is more structured than in years past. Before, I would switch items in my meals at random; now, I only stick to the plan. Even if the change is simple, it can make a drastic difference in my physique."

"My highest offseason weight was 276 pounds. That was in 2008, and I wasn't as lean-looking as I am now at just six pounds lighter. Eating starchy carbs like potatoes instead of brown rice has helped me grow while staying lean, and I don't feel as bloated."

En lille update?!

Lidt reklame stuff

http://videos.bodybuilding.com/watch/89612/2011-Road-To-The-Olympia-Phil-Heaths-Challenger-Back-Workout

Endnu en ryg træning, denne gang med bb.com

Preview fra ny Flex vid med Phil

Dem arms

Damn. Næsten 10k kcal på en dag. Bare det var mig.